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News|WoW> Génération des loots

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:15 pm
by Ankavos
post bleu :

Loot is generated upon creation.
As soon as you step into an instance, or a mob is created in the world, the loot that's going to drop has already been determined.

What are the variables in the random generator's kernel, is it based on some attribute of the players in the raid, or the raid leader?

Heh no, I believe it uses a time stamp to seed the generator. So, there's nothing you can influence within the game that would alter or coerce the generator.

So what you are saying is that we've killed Curator at the exact same second each week for the last 7 weeks, to account for the Champion gear? Or 14 out of the last 15 weeks? All we have to do is kill him a minute later?

No, the time it uses to seed would have no real implication into the final outcome of what loot its given. On a long enough generation table, you may see some type of pattern based purely on a random generators inability to truly be random. But we're talking about astronomical numbers, something ridiculous like hundreds of billions of generations. Nothing you would or could see a pattern in during your time playing the game.
What you're seeing is pure and basic laws of probability. Have a few thousand people roll a pair of dice and you're bound to see hundreds of people able to roll snake-eyes 10 times in a row. (not that dice are truly random either)

As for Quest items, they are always there, they're just hidden if you don't have the quest.

After stepping out of an instance or logging into an empty zone, I've often seen all the mobs throw up their buffs at the same time. Is this just my client, or does the server only create the mobs when someone's around to reduce load?

The mobs aren't actually created until someone enters the area. Sometimes you'll see mobs sort of "fall" a bit to the ground, or groups of mobs all fan out from a single point. This is usually the creation happening. Ideally you don't notice it at all though.


Conclusion : c'est totalement alétoire donc arretez de raler ça nous fera des vacances.


Source : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 2&sid=1#48

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:27 pm
by AntisystM
uhuh heureusement que c'est completement aleatoire, mais bon faut bien trouver un bouc-emissaire:p

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:58 pm
by Jynthor
AntisystM wrote:uhuh heureusement que c'est completement aleatoire, mais bon faut bien trouver un bouc-emissaire:p
Clair, sinon, pourquoi y a toujours les tokens chaman sur les boss? 8)

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:02 pm
by grishnad
Si on peut plus se decharger sur le masterloot ou va t'on!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:38 pm
by Ashkaa
Donc c'est la faute du premier à rentrer dans l'instance :twisted:
Il n'avait qu'à rentrer 1/4 de seconde plus tard et tous les loots changeaient :)

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:54 pm
by Ankavos
Ashkaa wrote:Donc c'est la faute du premier à rentrer dans l'instance :twisted:
Il n'avait qu'à rentrer 1/4 de seconde plus tard et tous les loots changeaient :)
ou pas vu que c'est aléatoire tu peux avoir les mêmes.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:55 pm
by Ix
La confrérie des démos ne se plaint pas trop derniérement ^^

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:38 pm
by nhol
normal, hier je suis rentré en premier dans l'instance, et on a eu :

2 token démo
1 baton caster dps

:roll:

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:47 pm
by Ashkaa
nhol wrote:normal, hier je suis rentré en premier dans l'instance, et on a eu :

2 token démo
1 baton caster dps

:roll:
Nhol, tu es engagé pour rentrer toujours en premier dans les instances :D

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:10 pm
by Hazuria
C'est pas à la création du Raid ID et donc de l'instance ?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:26 pm
by Ashkaa
Hazuria wrote:C'est pas à la création du Raid ID et donc de l'instance ?
Ah oui, donc c'est celui de mercredi qu'il faut remercier ;)

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:08 pm
by Boarson
MERCI !




>mais bon faut bien trouver un bouc-emissaire

Aguilar , c'est son job.